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Something that isn't talked about is how Cordelia kind of switches from one type of valley girl to another.
IMO there are two types of valley girl cliches in popular culture.
One is the mean girl, who is part of the popular clique, who is really nasty to unpopular girls, dorks, and is a nasty little gossip and has to take over any group. Mean Girls obviously popularized this cliche. The other however is one who is shallow, and more genuinely stupid, but isn't a nasty person. On the contrary she might be quite sweet and bubbly, though tactless, but never cruel. Examples of these types of girls are the two in Final Destination 3 who suffer that horrific tanning bed death and the girl in Zombieland 2.
In my opinion they completely change Cordelia into this in season 2. In season 1 she is the type 1, but they do a complete 180 and make her the type 2. In season 1 she is genuinely unpleasant and horrible to Willow and Buffy at times, and actually seems smart, but in season 2, she ironically seems to think she is their friend more than they like her LOL. The only one she is intentionally mean to is Xander, but to be fair that's more sexual tension so it's excusable. She's also a bit dumber at times LOL like her view on Marie Antoinette and thinking Xander is the fishman and still talking to him.
You really wouldn't have have a problem with Cordelia season 2 if she were real. Some might see that as growth, but I don't think so as she is still meant to be shallow and only really grows on Angel.
Personally though I MUCH preferred this change. I kind of wish they'd done it from the start as you can still show her grow from being shallow and self obsessed into the hero, but unlike season 1 you could have had her be part of the group more often, and the comedy around her was better in this season in my opinion.
IMO there are two types of valley girl cliches in popular culture.
One is the mean girl, who is part of the popular clique, who is really nasty to unpopular girls, dorks, and is a nasty little gossip and has to take over any group. Mean Girls obviously popularized this cliche. The other however is one who is shallow, and more genuinely stupid, but isn't a nasty person. On the contrary she might be quite sweet and bubbly, though tactless, but never cruel. Examples of these types of girls are the two in Final Destination 3 who suffer that horrific tanning bed death and the girl in Zombieland 2.
In my opinion they completely change Cordelia into this in season 2. In season 1 she is the type 1, but they do a complete 180 and make her the type 2. In season 1 she is genuinely unpleasant and horrible to Willow and Buffy at times, and actually seems smart, but in season 2, she ironically seems to think she is their friend more than they like her LOL. The only one she is intentionally mean to is Xander, but to be fair that's more sexual tension so it's excusable. She's also a bit dumber at times LOL like her view on Marie Antoinette and thinking Xander is the fishman and still talking to him.
You really wouldn't have have a problem with Cordelia season 2 if she were real. Some might see that as growth, but I don't think so as she is still meant to be shallow and only really grows on Angel.
Personally though I MUCH preferred this change. I kind of wish they'd done it from the start as you can still show her grow from being shallow and self obsessed into the hero, but unlike season 1 you could have had her be part of the group more often, and the comedy around her was better in this season in my opinion.