Hayden Panettiere has died at 36

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Have you all seen this? I wasn't a fan of hers really, but this is just sad... she was so young. It looks like the official cause of death has not been released, but it looks like it could have been cardiac arrest from an overdose.

I know in the past she has been candid about her struggles with drug and alcohol addiction, as well as how hard it was to navigate being a child star, and post pardon depression. She just released a memoir a few months ago, actually. May she rest in power.


Here she is with Michelle 🙁
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What a ****ing tragedy. All these talented people killed at least in part by fame.
I feel for her daughter and hope her father has kept her away from the media today.
 
Have you all seen this? I wasn't a fan of hers really, but this is just sad... she was so young. It looks like the official cause of death has not been released, but it looks like it could have been cardiac arrest from an overdose.

I know in the past she has been candid about her struggles with drug and alcohol addiction, as well as how hard it was to navigate being a child star, and post pardon depression. She just released a memoir a few months ago, actually. May she rest in power.


Here she is with Michelle 🙁
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I loved her in Bring it On All or Nothing. And honestly I always thought she would’ve been perfect to play ‘Buffy’ as well! Whenever I got into convos about other actresses who could play Buffy (if not SMG) Hayden was top of my list! She has that perfect balance of sweet bubbly and badass; like you know she could fight. Sad to see her pass so young smh
 
This made me sad. I've never been a huge fan but I liked her, and I've seen her interviews lately where she's been promoting her book and stuff and she has said some things that made me concerned for her mental health. Not to mention she has looked dead behind the eyes for years. I had a feeling as soon as her death was announced it was suicide. 🙁
 
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I don't think it was. They're saying it was an accidental overdose...
While we won't have the official toxicology results for possibly months, they're saying it was cardiac arrest from an overdose, but not sure if accidental or intentional.

I'm not necessarily saying I think there was foul play involved, but it is suspicious that her ex-boyfriend - who had been arrested in the past and served jail time for domestic violence against her, AND who she had a restraining order against that recently expired - was present when she died.
 
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Going on what people here have said about what happened to Miss Hayden. Those people in authority who sat in authority over her decided to blame her regardless of her ability to cope with the situation. If people of an understanding nature had allowed themselves to look into what Hayden was going through I am sure there would have been a different outcome, of course there is always the notion I could be wrong.
 
Going on what people here have said about what happened to Miss Hayden. Those people in authority who sat in authority over her decided to blame her regardless of her ability to cope with the situation. If people of an understanding nature had allowed themselves to look into what Hayden was going through I am sure there would have been a different outcome, of course there is always the notion I could be wrong.
As a recovering addict of more than three and a half decades in recovery, I wish you were right. The truth is that as an adult, only she had authority over her own life, even if she could not cope. An addict by definition cannot manage his/her own life. Sadly, that's not always clear to the addict, even when it should be.

While I am sure there will be things that were done wrong or oversight that wasn't done, the truth is, the natural state of an addict is to use. Yes, that's what I said. It's a true miracle when we get and stay clean and when we recover. It takes work. it takes help. (and that help can be complicated to give, because addicts are ornery beasts and we destroy those who love us the most) It takes time and struggle. Not even all who truly want recovery survive. Even those who struggle hard sometimes can't make it happen. It's a disease. It's like other mental illnesses in this way: it's an illness that tells you you are not sick, that you can manage, can handle things. And for many strong people (those who are most independent and often manage other things superlatively), we compensate until we can't. Then we crash and often we burn. I've known people with decades clean who overdosed and died the first time they relapsed (at least in part because they no longer have the tolerance they think they have and almost always because they're hiding from EVERYONE in their lives (including themselves) - or at minimum, everyone they know would try to stop them. Two truths: All addicts lie. Most of all, we lie to ourselves. (it's called denial)

And the drugs keep getting stronger and more dangerous. Having money also eliminates the barriers that keep some of us out of trouble. Money will buy just about ANYTHING, especially discretion. It does not take a lot of money to purchase a lethal dose.

I'm very sorry she's dead. I'm sorry she overdosed or deliberately hurt herself... either way, this disease is a wicked and horrible thing. I feel for her family. I feel for her child especially. What a waste of a talented life.

If you are someone who struggles with (a) substance(s) and/or an addictive behaviour, please get help and once you get clean, please remember that you will ALWAYS be an addict and you cannot afford to EVER forget this. You therefore will always need help. In addition to getting help if you need it, staying around other recovering addicts will give you a chance to help others recover, and that will do more for your recovery than just about anything else. Most relapsers come to the point where they believe they are cured. Recovery is a daily reprieve, not a cure.

About addiction: IP #1, Who, What, How, and Why - Narcotics Anonymous World Services

(excerpt)

Who is an addict?

Most of us do not have to think twice about this question. We know! Our whole life and thinking was centered in drugs in one form or another—the getting and using and finding ways and means to get more. We lived to use and used to live. Very simply, an addict is a man or woman whose life is controlled by drugs. We are people in the grip of a continuing and progressive illness whose ends are always the same: jails, institutions, and death.

I highly recommend:

Alcoholics Anonymous - Have a problem with alcohol? There is a solution. | Alcoholics Anonymous
Narcotics Anonymous - Narcotics Anonymous
Overeaters Anonymous (overeating, undereating (anorexia) bulimia) - https://oa.org/
Alanon (for someone who has a family history of any substance abuse, not just alcohol) Al-Anon Family Groups

(There's an 'anonymous' program for any other type of addiction/substance or behaviour you can imagine - Gamblers Anonymous, Debtors Anonymous come to mind - gambling and debt destroy both the addict and their families and often end up in combination with substance abuse)

In spite of the seriousness with which food and obesity is NOT taken, it actually kills more people than any other addiction, though nicotine may win that war in some third world countries.

NOTE: If you are currently using, you probably ALSO need medical help. Quitting a substance can be dangerous to your health if you don't do it correctly. This is particularly true of alcohol.

Disclaimer: I'm a recovering addict, sharing my experience, strength and hope. I'm not a physician and I am not pretending to be one. This is NOT medical advice.
 
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Why did you feel the need to use bold letters or red letters?

It maybe true that quitting something might not be advisable if done wrong but it could be a damn site more harmful if you keep using said item. What you used to help you was okay for you, I refused to use support groups or people who said they knew better than me.
I have been a good person in this life, good at various types of drugs, good at drinking Sherry and Port, good at smoking, to quit said items I chose to use will power and a belief, a faith in though not a religion as such that and a couple of dead people. What was most important in all things was the will to stop. You might need to say you are a recovering addict, I do not it is a case of been there, done that, not doing it again.
 
Why did you feel the need to use bold letters or red letters?

It maybe true that quitting something might not be advisable if done wrong but it could be a damn site more harmful if you keep using said item. What you used to help you was okay for you, I refused to use support groups or people who said they knew better than me.
I have been a good person in this life, good at various types of drugs, good at drinking Sherry and Port, good at smoking, to quit said items I chose to use will power and a belief, a faith in though not a religion as such that and a couple of dead people. What was most important in all things was the will to stop. You might need to say you are a recovering addict, I do not it is a case of been there, done that, not doing it again.
Just the way my brain works. Was aiming at clarity. You are, of course, entitled to your own approach to stopping using. Live and let live.
 
Is it me or do many actors who started as children suffer serious problems? If so, it doesn't look like being such is really a good thing for children.
 
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