Spike on Angel Season 5 Was it worth it or a waste of time ?

I thought Spike was the best aspect of Angel's fifth season. And Illyria, although we had to lose Fred to get her.
 
SPIKE: *raises paper bag* I call him Angel. *sets bag on fire with lighter* now Angel's dead. How sad. *walks off*
 
However, I think if James really wanted to leave for Season 6, let him. Or, better yet, bring him back for a short run, or recurring status. Angel clearly doesn't need him around.
 
hoponlilmama said:
Recurring guest would've been perfect.
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He's talked about how Joss originally tried to get him to work on the show for less money but he said no he'd only do it for what he was making on Buffy. Not more just the same. Which is fair, imagine going into work and your boss telling you that he's decided to cut your pay. You wouldn't do it either.

He'd fallen out with Producer Kelly Manners "Don't give a hoot just shoot shoot shoot" and it had gotten so bad he was going to give his notice except the news then came in the show had been cancelled.
 
Spike was worth every cent they spent on him. Without Spike, the entire story would have been 'Angel and his company willingly get absorbed into Wolfram & Hart and never oppose their agenda again'. Spike was a distraction from what they had done and a welcome relief from season 4 which had some of the worst scenes in the entire show. He easily becomes the focal point of Angel just the way he did with Buffy. Both shows became The Spike Show, one featuring Buffy and the other featuring Angel.
 
Ethan Reigns said:
Spike was worth every cent they spent on him. Without Spike, the entire story would have been 'Angel and his company willingly get absorbed into Wolfram & Hart and never oppose their agenda again'. Spike was a distraction from what they had done and a welcome relief from season 4 which had some of the worst scenes in the entire show. He easily becomes the focal point of Angel just the way he did with Buffy. Both shows became The Spike Show, one featuring Buffy and the other featuring Angel.
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No Spike and there wouldn't have been a season 5.
It was renewed very late. So much so A lot of people actually thought S4 was going to be the last.
Joss got it renewed on these provisions
1 more stand alone/episodic episodes
2 lighter and more brighter appearance unlike S4
3 bringing Spike over who was a popular character
 
Both, but leaning towards the former! His redemption in s7 of Buffy was clearly necessary after his actions in 'Seeing Red', but his sacrifice felt like the end of the character arc. He adds a lot of humour to Angel (tho some of the Abbott and Costello knockabout stuff in episodes like TGIQ feels out of place), and creates an interesting debate about who, out of he & Angel, is the *real* champion. As others have said, it was fitting that his character was in s5, as the most perceptive, rebellious one who always see W&H for what they are.
 
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