Turok-Han: how many in the final battle?

[SarahJR3]

How many Turok-Han were there supposed to be in the final battle? Has Joss Whedon ever commented on this?

 

[Cohen]

The green screen effect showed thousands upon thousands. But they were all sealed away/destroyed by Spike's amulet.

 

[SarahJR3]

Yeah, still not sure how I feel about the amulet saving the day...

The green screen effect showed thousands upon thousands. But they were all sealed away/destroyed by Spike's amulet.

G,

 

[Cohen]

Yeah, still not sure how I feel about the amulet saving the day...

Personally, I feel like it was a cheesy way to end the series. Also, I didn't like the Turok-Han army. I felt like it negated the power of the Turok Han from the middle of the season. And then the fact that they were so easily killed after Anya stated in an earlier episode "its like ramming a stake through a cement wall". I felt like the writers were building to something grand but they wasted so much time with the Potentials storyline, everything fell flat. Especially with the Turok Han army. Also I'm still mad that Amanda died.

 

[Stake fodder]

I haven't counted them myself lol, and I don't know Whedon's opinion, but it seems like only so many could be contained in that cave, so I voted <5000. I thought it was a mistake to have so many, especially as the more there were, the less powerful and threatening they seemed to become. And where would so many even come from, when it took finding a seal and spilling a lot of blood on it to get even one?

I also agree that the writers lost interest in the whole concept of the Turok Han along the way in S7.

 

[Ethan Reigns]

I voted for under 5000 because any cavern that could hold more than that would have collapsed with normal California earthquake / tectonic movement.

 

[SarahJR3]

I voted for under 5000 because any cavern that could hold more than that would have collapsed with normal California earthquake / tectonic movement.

I like your thought process to tackle the problem. However, the largest known cave in the world (by volume), Son Doong in Vietnam (a country that also has a lot of seismic activity), is about 40 million cubic metres in volume - and about 9km in length with a max depth of 150m. You could fit a lot of Turok-Han in a cave like that... Happy to be corrected, though.

 

[WillowsFaith]

Honestly didn’t look like that much. Probably 10,000 max. Also they went out like scrubs. A better ending would be Willow and Buffy side by side, fighting together. The potentials could barely take one down a episode earlier, and now they are fighting hundreds together? It makes no sense. Should’ve just given Buffy and willow a final power up to end it. Like imagine how epic it would be to see Buffy rushing in, avengers Endgame Style. Staking ubervamps, while willow uses projectile magic. Spike and the amulet was not needed and ruined the female power of the show. Essential a male vampire saved the day, and not Buffy. The main heroine of the story🙄

 

[TamsinValencia]

I would say thousands. It looks like a lot more though when you watch it.

 

[AlphaFoxtrot]

I believe Saruman said that it was an army of ten thousand, ready to take Helm's Deep for the White Hand.

 

[thrasherpix]

If they were in this dimension then the bigger question is how were they feeding, and why never encountered before? Why could they only leave a cave by blood magic?

 

[Kendar]

I haven't counted them myself lol, and I don't know Whedon's opinion, but it seems like only so many could be contained in that cave, so I voted <5000. I thought it was a mistake to have so many, especially as the more there were, the less powerful and threatening they seemed to become. And where would so many even come from, when it took finding a seal and spilling a lot of blood on it to get even one?

I also agree that the writers lost interest in the whole concept of the Turok Han along the way in S7.

Honestly didn’t look like that much. Probably 10,000 max. Also they went out like scrubs. A better ending would be Willow and Buffy side by side, fighting together. The potentials could barely take one down a episode earlier, and now they are fighting hundreds together? It makes no sense. Should’ve just given Buffy and willow a final power up to end it. Like imagine how epic it would be to see Buffy rushing in, avengers Endgame Style. Staking ubervamps, while willow uses projectile magic. Spike and the amulet was not needed and ruined the female power of the show. Essential a male vampire saved the day, and not Buffy. The main heroine of the story🙄

It's a classic example of Conservation of Ninjutsu. One is a deadly threat. Hundreds are cannon fodder.