Was Angel corrupted by Wolfram & Hart

[Wildfly]

I think there is a consensus after watching the finale of Atvs that Angel wasn't corrupted by Wolfram & Hart, but I am not convinced.

Sure, he haven't sold out to the senior partners, but he seems to be a bit of a megalomaniac at the end.

It made a good show, but it was a bit disturbing. Take one example - ordering Lorne to kill Lindsey.

That's wrong on so many levels... to use military terminology, I consider it a criminal order, and I think Lorne shouldn't have done it.

(and moral considerations aside, was it really necessary?)


I mean there's supposed to be a difference between Angel and Angelus, in not just why, but how they fight.

I know lindsey's death was discussed a lot here, but I am more interested exploring would Angel play it that dirty, or he'd just got used playing with people's lives while at W&H

 

[white avenger]

I think there is a consensus after watching the finale of Atvs that Angel wasn't corrupted by Wolfram & Hart, but I am not convinced.

Sure, he haven't sold out to the senior partners, but he seems to be a bit of a megalomaniac at the end.

It made a good show, but it was a bit disturbing. Take one example - ordering Lorne to kill Lindsey.

That's wrong on so many levels... to use military terminology, I consider it a criminal order, and I think Lorne shouldn't have done it.

(and moral considerations aside, was it really necessary?)


I mean there's supposed to be a difference between Angel and Angelus, in not just why, but how they fight.

I know lindsey's death was discussed a lot here, but I am more interested exploring would Angel play it that dirty, or he'd just got used playing with people's lives while at W&H

Angel was corrupted to a certain extent, mostly, I think, in Season 5, by the delusion that he could do more good from inside the evil law firm than he ever did from the outside. Reasonable assumption, but it seemed to work out better for Senior Partners than for Angel. Once inside the belly of the beast, Angel and his team seemed to almost be more concerned with their personal problems than with their former mission of helping the helpless.

And, killing Lindsey was a total tactical blunder. Why, when Angel was provoking the Senior Partners into sending, literally, an army to come after him, did he intentionally reduce his fighting force by 2 men? If Lindsey was, indeed, going to betray Angel later, forewarned is forearmed. Angel could either be prepared when it happened, or, on the slight chance that they all survived the battle in the alley, have eliminated him personally after the dust cleared and the fighting stopped.

By having Lorne kill Lindsey, Angel not only lost Lindsey's sword arm, but also Lorne's singing voice. If it could help Lindsey kill his designated targets, it would probably do the same for the Senior Partners' army.

 

[Skanky Vamp]

Of course Angel was corrupted by Wolfram & Hart. It was shown, and said, on the show. That is the reason why the Powers that Be had to take the guise of Cordy to snap him out of it.

 

[Wildfly]

Of course Angel was corrupted by Wolfram & Hart. It was shown, and said, on the show. That is the reason why the Powers that Be had to take the guise of Cordy to snap him out of it.

Yes sure, but that's the thing. I don't think she'd snapped him out if it. Yes, he become aware of the Senior Partner's plans, but he still had delusions of grandeur and all his decisions in the finale were the result of that.

 

[Skanky Vamp]

but he still had delusions of grandeur and all his decisions in the finale were the result of that.

He always had delusions of grandeur. Wolfram & Hart did not give him those delusions, they were part of his character; both Angel and Angelus shared in them.

 

[Ethan Reigns]

He killed Drogyn, who was not evil, just to join the Circle of the Black Thorn. There are a number of street gangs who require prospective members to kill someone as a requirement for admission into the gang. This guarantees no undercover cops will join because they are not allowed to do that. Angel had descended into becoming a street thug at that point. And this was his idea, not some requirement that someone else had put on him, so his fall to the dark side had become complete at this point.